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5-10% direct Mycenaean could be being absorbed by the Greek Imperial samples but thats it. There were 400-480 years between the Classical Sicilians and the Imperial samples. We cant tell how sudden the change was. Its possible that Hellenistic age South Italy already was receiving Greeks...

If Apulians can be modelled with simply Minoan then all Greek islanders can be modelled with Simply Minoan, makes no sense. Just because you think something is viable because of your assumptions about the population density, it does not counter actual autosomal DNA data. Apulians have way too...

It's just an outlier, there weren't even West Anatolians with this high CHG shift in that period. Look at the 750-480 BC West Anatolian samples. This model is just comparing shifts, not actual ancestry.

It could only be eating it if South Italy also experienced a large East Anatolian/Armenian and Levantine migration and recreated an identical profile to the Imperial West Anatolians. But then that would mean that the migrants were not Greek, which i don't think its the case. Most of the...

I've explained many times that those Rome Imperials had a much higher CHG and Levant Neolithic shift than the Bronze and Iron age Sicilians. I've addressed that many times, why are you still asking about it. Explain to me why there are no samples ever in ancient Sicily that are this close to...

Everyone on this post is 100% ignoring everything i'm saying, only looking at one model and then rushing to comment their opinion and ask questions about things that i have already explained. I've showed the Bronze and Iron age Sicilians, why did you even assume that i ignored them, it means you...

I meant you looking at the PCA on your 2D screen which oversimplifies the reality.

What? There are literally no Bronze age and Iron Age Sicilian samples with this high CHG and Levantine shifts as the Rome Imperial ones, ZERO. Frankly, your disagreement on this fundamental fact objectively disqualifies your theory. Explain to me why there are no samples ever in ancient Sicily...

I did not neglect that at all. If you actually read my first post you would have known that. It seems that people here are commenting without even bothering reading everything i wrote on my original post. I've talked about the Bronze Age, Iron Age and classical age Sicilians many times in this...

The paper is showing that Hellenistic urban Macedonians were 50-70% Anatolian. Something like that happened later in imperial South Italy. Now i do not know if the shift happened in 10 or 50 or 100 or 200 years. Its possible that these people also moved to South Italy during the Hellenistic...

But i've never claimed 100% replacement by just the Greek West Anatolians. Obviously South Italians will not cluster with C5 because they also have some Iron Age Italian and Northern admix. Stop the mental gymnastics. Don't mind the 0AD thing, typo.

Just because you cannot believe something, it doesn't change the reality. The data clearly show that there is a massive shift from imperial West Anatolia. Lower birthrates, huge migrations can shift demographics, why is it so hard for people to understand.

Why would i use such old populations, a lot has happened since the Bronze Age. This is about the imperial era migration. There was no such big Armenian_LBA shift in Iron Age/classical Italy. It arrived during the Imperial period. We know because we can track the changes from the Bronze Age ->...

I literally showed in my post the Rome_Imperial samples i used for antiquity Greek. Those were the ones who clustered with imperial Greek West Anatolians so i renamed them to antiquity Greek.

I literally posted them at the end of my original post. Why don't you people bother reading everything i say before commenting?

I checked the Greek cluster from imperial Rome, they have no Italian Iron Age admix. No pseudo West Anatolian profile while the Imperial Rome average shows actual Iron Age Italian. All the arguments against my post is just "i can't believe it happened".

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Nah, i think you are not actually even bothering to read what i say. Everything you complained about was already explained by me, but you choose to not read what i say, why do i have to repeat the same stuff 100 times that you obviously do not bother to read and just keep repeating your beliefs...

My point was that the attack was about the recent Greek immigrants making the cities majority Greek. Some conservative Romans were complaining about the migrations. The migration was so big they were complaining that the cities turned Greek. Some Romans were complaining that the city of Rome...

Another person that has no idea about the actual similarities and differences between these populations. The Greeks who migrated were not Mycenaeans, Anatolia BA or Anatolia IA. They had an autosomal profile that was a mix of Mycenaean, Anatolia IA, Armenia and the Levant. All of that recreated...