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I agree that the sampling limitations, especially for southern Europe, make strong conclusions difficult. That said, the way I read the ancestry-specific PCA, the more apparent pull of the Tuscans relative to the Bergamo sample seems to be primarily along an east–west axis rather than a...

Pity ChatGPoliticalCorrect refuses to list possible ethnicities/geographical origins.

Facial description Face shape: Your face appears oval to slightly rectangular, with a fairly balanced proportion between forehead, cheekbones, and jaw. Forehead: The forehead is moderately broad and high, with a natural hairline and slightly wavy hair falling forward. Hair: Your hair looks...

That is the same phenomen occurring between some modern northern Italians and some modern Iberians isn't it?

As far as I know Italians (most of them originally from Veneto and Trentino) in Brasil were/are very much concentrated in certain areas of the country, so could it depend from where the sample is from?

Interesting, I'm quite familiar with the Nice area and I see a lot of Italian surnames around but I didn't think the percentage was so high. As you say a lot is also due to Medieval interactions, not coincidentally Monaco's ruling family were merchants (or rather pirates) from Genoa...

I would argue that Marseille is as Southern France as it gets with almost the same distance from the Italian and Spanish borders (closer to the Italian but not in a significant way), so almost in the middle. But let's not focus on details. If anything this goes to strenghthen emphasis on the...

Any impact of the Greek colonies on broadly Southern France, in particular the area of Marseille, would definitely be an interesting topic to investigate. But the reported similarity here is of South-Eastern France (up almost to the borders with Switzerland) with "TSI", not with Greeks. As to my...

As far as I can read from the abstract the similariry is with Central-Northern Italians (as I would suspect) so probably the Greeks don't enter the picture. IMO It's more due to a common ancient (and possibly more recent, too) Ligurian subtsratum.

TBH in respect to Corsica with those surnames I would have been surprised if they weren't. To me it's more interesting to confirm that even on the mainland this principle applies to "ethnic" French with French surnames apparently.

Of course. That is why.

Why on earth should the proxy for Central Italian be Levantine IA?

We agree. Accordingly, they are as “purely” Northern Italian as one can be. The fact that being quintessentially Northern Italian would nonetheless pull them away from a supposed “Northern Italian average” is, indeed, a paradox. If resolving that paradox were to require the exclusion of the...

The Bergamese are prototypical Northern Italians, it would be a bit weird in my opinion to exclude them from a Northern Italian average.

So, are Northern Italians the closest modern population to IA Latins? Have you considered other modern populations further to those in your graph?

Interesting experiment, and I agree the visuals are quite striking. That said, I think the limits you point out are crucial. Even if ancestral components and proportions are accurately inferred, translating them into a plausible modern phenotype would require accounting for millennia of sexual...

DNA says otherwise. Case closed.

Why? BTW it is not "Italy_MBA", it is Roca_Vecchia_MBA.

I'm not as familiar with the non-Italian speaking cantons but Lugano, for example, is an Italian town, a lot of Italian people working and living there with families. Not your average immigrant mind you but urbanites, usually from Lombardy, with high education and the best paid jobs in services.