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She's just of alpine phenotype, doesn't strike me as particularly typical in germanic and celtic countries
Ana de Armas
She was born in Cuba, of Spanish decent. Too me she looks like more of a Celto-Germanic-type.
She's also extremely attractive imo.
Alpine among spaniards in not uncommon, but it is very often mixed with gracile medWell, there aren't many Alpines in Spain.
We all have atypical people in our populations.
On the apricity, some people deny that dna comes from berbers saying that "galicia and asturias were never conquered"Maciamo, I read the link you gave me, but some things are not clear for me. The berber genetic intromission in West Iberia is dated between 860 and 1120, and the pattern to the south of the different clades is clearly related with languages and different northern kingdoms of Middle Age Iberia. The present genetic map of Iberian Peninsula is related to the people movements of the last 1000 years. For being sure of what was the genetic map of Iberia before reconquest, it is neccesary to study ancient DNA, actual distribution is not accurate to see that. The study is publicated in 2018 Nature review, signed by Carracedo (USC), Simon Myers, Peter Donnelly and Clare Bycroft (Oxford). About extremely genetic diversity in Galicia and Basque Country between shires, there are recent studies as well.
For me is quite clear, West Iberia (northwest Iberia, Extremadura and central Portugal) completed reconquest against moors very quickly, by then berbers were muslims since little time and religious differences were not as insane as they were lately, so berbers were assimilated, today this component reachs its peak at 10% in some western iberian shires. Central and East Iberia completed reconquest much more lately, by then religious differences were very rough and muslims were sistematically expelled of reconquered territories, even pure iberians who were muslims.
I very hardly believe Basques have high percentages of light color eyes and hair. I can not find the study but I remind a recent and massive study of that, the highest percentage of light color eyes and hair is northern Galicia and west Asturias, and this is reasonably because of combination of climate conditions and higher percentages of germanic genetics.
A person like Laura Prats could be quintessential of west mediterranean appearance, but Iberia is much more than Mediterranean Coast. The appearance of a person like Laura Prats is not common in Atlantic Iberia from Lisbon to San Sebastian, for example, the appareance of Ana de Armas is by far for me more familiar than the one represented by Laura Prats (who in the picture is tanned by summer sun).
Iberia, and Spain, is wide, with very different climate areas, and the diversity of appereances are, by far, more numerous than central and northern european countries. When I lived in Ireland, I saw Irish people is very similar between them, there are scarce diversity in appereances. Galicia is half extension in territory, similar in population and the diversity of appereances in people is very much higher.
InterestingSir Philip, there was a muslim tax achiever in Gijon (Asturias coast), and surely muslims arrived at Atlantic coast at the very beginning, as they arrived as far as north in France like Poitiers in 732. Did they conquered North Atlantic and Cantabrian coast? surely they only ask for taxes during 10-20-30 years, but nothing like an occupation. The only bishofrics in Iberia with absolut continuity between roman times until today are Iria Flavia (present Santiago de Compostela) and Lugo both in Northern Galicia, and those days at least a big part of Asturias was part of Lugo bishofric. In the place where I was born, in the northwestern atlantic coast of Galicia, there are legends about muslims who went there once per year to take a tribute composed by 100 girls, the noble house of the place has as symbol fig branches because they used fig branches to make the muslims go away when they went to get the girls.
There are still questions without answers about berber genetics in Western Iberia. Lugo was repopulated in 739 with Christian refugees came from North Africa. Perhaps there were more christian refugees from North Africa in northwestern Iberia, and if you add these refugees to berber remains in 739 (date of the berber revolt against sirians in Iberia), you will obtain this 5-10% of berber genetics in West Iberia. It is known as well muslims made raids in northern Iberian to obtain slaves, but christians made raids in muslim territory to obtain slaves as well, so we had to add these item to the prior two. I have read sometime berber genetics are mainly located in some areas or shires inside Western Iberia, I don�t know if this is very accurate or not.
Year 739 is very important, it was the real beginning of christian counterattack.
Jamie Llorente is the Celtic type in this set and not the girl who i think looks more Germanic.The following actors are from the Amazon series El Cid.
Celto-Germanic type
Jaime Olías. He could easily pass for British, Belgian, North French or West German.
Celtic type
Lucía Guerrero. This is how I imagined the Classical Alpine Celtic phenotype (Hallstatt and La Tène). She could very easily pass for Walloon or North French.
Roman type
Francisco Ortiz. I think he could easily pass for a Central or North Italian.
British type (?)
Juan Echanove. He is from Madrid but has a Basque surname. He really reminds me of Boris Johnson.
Iberian type (?)
Jaime Lorente, from Murcia. His phenotype is not Celtic, Germanic, Italic/Roman, Basque, Phoenician, nor Arabic, so I suppose that only leaves Iberian.
"The main ancestry (in Spain) is Celtiberian, which is the combination of Paleolithic Iberian (Cro-Magnon I2), Neolithic Iberian from the Near East on the southern coasts (E-M78, J2), and Celtic (especially in the centre and north, R1b-P312 and G2a3a)."
Thank you for your post. I agree with you about the J Roman patrilineage. In my own case, for example, I possibly descend of a legionary in NW Hispania.The bulk of the neolithic male line would have been comprised of G2a. Any increase in J2 and E-V13 (a subclade of E-M78) would be due to the Greeks and Romans.
Remember that the Rome, Picene and Etruscan papers indicated a predominance of R1b-U152 in Central Italy under the Republic.Thank you for your post. I agree with you about the J Roman patrilineage. In my own case, for example, I possibly descend of a legionary in NW Hispania.
The quote is of a Maciamo's post in another thread. To my (limited) knowledge, it is a good resume of our (Spanish) ancestry in terms of autosomal DNA, more related to phenotypes. When Roman conquered Hispania with an army of perhaps several thousand soldiers, about 4 million people lived here. Roma was interested in the tributary contribution of Iberia and no massive migration of Italian families to Hispania has been reported. ¿What was the genetic of those 4 million people? Again, the answer is in the Maciamo's quoted post: the paleolithic WHG (west hunter gatherers), the neolithic anatolian farmers and the Bronze Age Central/North Europe people.
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